Zabudnite na 125mm (zatiaľ)

8. 12. 2013 | Jaro
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Prednedávnom sme informovali o prototype rámu Powerslide s kolieskami 3x125mm. Medzitým sa o tom veľa popísalo, diskutovalo a aj hádalo.  Prečo toľko rozruchu kvôli jednému prototypu, mohli by ste sa pýtať.  Sám som bol svedkom toho ako sa na expe pred berlínskym maratónom profi tím Powerslide premával na korčuliach s rámom 3x125mm. Získali si tým samozrejme náležitú pozornosť. I keď priznávam sa, že mi ani neprišlo čudné , že chlapci jazdia na úplne iných rámoch aj napriek tomu, že na druhý deň budú predsa len musieť pretekať na 110mm klasike.  No ako vysvitlo podľa posledného článku, zrejme už  bývalého reprezentanta a aktuálneho manažéra Speed Divízie Powerslide Scotta Arlidga, chlapci z Powerslide mali v úmysle na Berlínskom maratóne na spomínanej novinke štartovať. Podľa Scotta Arlidga im to bolo v Berlíne zakázané o 11:00 (štart bol 15:30). Pomerne kruté a evidentne to bolo kvôli tomu, že takéto kolieska sú zakázané Firs-om (Medzinárodná federácia združujúca kolieskové športy ) a z toho vyplýva, že aj Berlínsky maratón zrejme spadal pod Firs. A čo Firs-om nie je povolené, je aj zakázané. To je jediné logické vysvetlenie, ktoré mi z toho celého vychádza. Iné som z článku Scotta  nevyčítal a žiadne oficiálne stanovisko som na webe nenašiel.

Tu je časť, ktorá sa zákazu týka a ako vidíte neopisuje konkrétneho inicátora zákazu. I keď vykonávateľom zákazu bol na 99% organizátor Berlínskeho maratónu:

“We can talk as much as we want, but at the end of the day, we won’t know more until we can get some serious testing done. As I said, I’m no longer good enough to push them to the limit, so we were hoping to do so at the Berlin marathon, but that plan was halted at the 11th hour. I am not 100% sure what the motives were behind such a decision. I understand that rules are rules and we knew that we would be given a DQ by using 125mm.”

 Krátko po Berlínskom maratóne potom korčuliarsky svet obletela správa, že FIRS oficiálne 125mm kolieska zakázal z bezpečnostných dôvodov. 

Medzičasom Powerslide dával nový typ rámu na testovanie rôznym tímom. Najrozsiahlejšiu recenziu pripravila bezkonkurenčne dánska Sk8skool. Ak si chcete prečítať ich postrehy (v anglickom jazyku) klikajte na tento link a čítajte. 

Každému  kto sa už v inline  rýchlokorčuľovaní dlhšie pohybuje, môže vzniknutá situácia pripomínať mierne déjà vu. Pred niekoľkými rokmi sa dialo podobné so 110mm kolieskami. Tie ako už iste viete boli napokon schválené.

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Zdroj fotky: Facebook powerslide

 Na koniec tohto článku vložíme vyhlásenie Scotta Arlidga a vyhlásenie novo zélandského trénera Bill Begga.  Koho teda zaujmajú detaily týkajúce sa 125mm koliesok, môže si ich naštudovať. Scott popisuje predovšetkým zistenia vyplývajúce z testovania korčúľ. Bill Beg už ako z jeho vyjadrení vyplývalo dávnejšie,  nebol nikdy nadšený ani zo 110mm kolieskok, pretože tie zvýhodňovali silových jazdcov. Ďalšou nevýhodou je podľa neho zvýšený nápor na členky a taktiež nemožnosť správneho umiestnenia koliesok pre korčuliarov s malými nohami. No a tí ak chceli použiť menšie kolieska, strácali v porovnaní so 110mm kolieskami “roll” .

Ak sa vám celý článok nechce čítať, vypicheme sem pár pre a proti argumentov, ktoré sa často ozývajú z oboch strán.

Argumenty pre:

- Scott zvýšenú výšku obhajuje tým, že už v dnešnej dobe ázijskí korčuliari korčuľujú na 165mm rozteči so 110mm kolieskami. Takýto setup je hádam ešte vyšší, ak nie výškou podobný

- vďaka trom kolieskam sa stredné koliesko nachádza bližšie pri topánke ako štandardné 110mm koliesko. Powerslide si pri svojom prototype navyše nechal rezervu pre použitie s inými topánkami

- dĺžka rámu je v porovnaní s 4x110mm podobná

- vďaka koliesku priamo pod topánkou by mali mať lepšiu priľnavosť v zákrutách

- možno lepšie kontrolovateľné

- môžu sa tak posunúť limity inline rýchlokorčuľovania

Argumenty proti:

- ťažisko je príliš vysoko

- Cadomotus pri špekuláciách o 125mm kolieskach zverejňoval kombináciu rámu a topánok so spevneným a vyšším členkom, čo by znamenalo ďalšie náklady na novú výbavu

-  ťažko ovládateľné pre menej skúsených korčuliarov, čo by znamenalo veľmi ťažké komerčné uplatnenie, ktoré by malo byť pri takomto projekte taktiež dôležité

- zvýšené nebezpečenstvo vyplývajúce zo zvýšeného ťažiska, menšej stability a podobne

- veľký nápor na členky. Tým argumentuje hlavne Bill Begg

- náklady na zmenu výbavy už aj tak nákladného športu. Už dnes majú pretekári starú výbavu v podobe rámov a 100mm koliesok. Poprípade topánok so 165mm roztečou  - ďalší argument trénera z Nového Zélandu

 

Sľubovaný článok – Scott Arlidge:

“Or the plain text version of our 125mm story:
So much has been made of the new 125mm project we have been working on here at Powerslide and Matter that I thought it was time that I commented myself on the subject. Basically the project was born to go faster. We’ve had to bite our tongue so many times over the last few weeks and months because so many people have commented without fully understanding the situation, seeing the product, or even skating on them. We think its time that I shared some of our initial thoughts on the subject.

Firstly, lets look at some important facts; The deck height is similar to current 4x110mm configurations because its only 3 wheels and we are able to drop the mounting blocks over the center wheel (actually many Asian skaters are using 4x110mm and a 165mm mounting which is considerably higher and they are some of the worlds best skaters). We could have even gone slightly lower but we added some space to allow for different boots etc. The tip-to-tip point for the length is the same as 4x 110mm. It is lighter than 4x 110mm, it saves you about 130g over a full set of wheels.

I’ve been on mine now since about a week before the World Championships, and the obvious advantage is the roll. I am no longer a top level skater, but the biggest advantage I felt was you get a lot more roll for the same amount of push. Another key benefit I found was the under-push portion of the double push; its easier. I believe this due to the fact that you have one wheel under the middle of your foot. Another benefit I have found is that they are easier to turn on. So this might actually enhance racing on what some people deem ‘boring tracks’ by allowing people to turn where it might not have been possible before.

We can talk as much as we want, but at the end of the day, we won’t know more until we can get some serious testing done. As I said, I’m no longer good enough to push them to the limit, so we were hoping to do so at the Berlin marathon, but that plan was halted at the 11th hour. I am not 100% sure what the motives were behind such a decision. I understand that rules are rules and we knew that we would be given a DQ by using 125mm.

Getting onto the next subject of, “should they be legal” our answer is why not? Above I mentioned some important facts regarding the specs. 2006 was the first year we saw 110mm popping up at events. I remember people talking with the same anger as some of the PS skaters warmed up on them, and now look at us. Our sport is cutting edge. Those world records we saw being crushed in Belgium are what the purists in our sport live for. Performances like those of Andres Munoz in the 300m TT or Bart Swings in the points race are defining moments in our sport. It didn’t matter what country they skate for, or what wheels they were using, what was important is that they pushed the limits of what we thought was possible. Now I am NOT saying that if they had 125mm on Andes would have skated a 22second 300m TT, but I am saying that development in our sport is what plays a part in these performances too.

It seems like the common complaint is that they will be too high, because then it becomes unsafe, and I’ve already mentioned the many successful Asian skaters who are using the much higher 165mm mounting option in combination with 4x110mm. Again, and this is only my opinion, but maybe the powers in charge of our sport need to relook at what they deem to be dangerous. I can name several other factors which are far more dangerous, like road courses at worlds or pack size.

For sure I am not advocating these for use for younger skaters therefore maybe we shouldn’t speak about wheel size anymore, instead I propose we regulate the height of the mounting block rather than the diameter of the wheels. Then people could choose 3x125mm or 4x110mm. Younger skaters could choose 3x110mm or 4x100mm, and even younger kids could choose 3x100mm or 4x90mm as all of these options have comparable height.

We are going to continue to the development of 125mm because it will feature on one of our high end fitness skates for 2014. Everyone who tries them instantly loves the feeling, and it is sad that maybe there won’t a real chance to test them under race conditions in the near future. Thankfully back in 2006/07/08 we had the WIC events which allowed a platform for this testing. However it is what it is, and currently its like having your driver at a track day testing things before Formula 1.

110mm began to come out at events in 2006 and wasn’t permitted in CIC competition until the 2008 season, so we wouldn’t even expect something that was first displayed in August of 2013 to be fully permitted by January 1st 2014…

Thanks for reading

Scott Arlidge
Speed division manager for Powerslide and Matter Racing.

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Zdroj článku: Facebook powerslide

 

Facebook post – Bill Begg 

“”Well it’s about time the skaters welfare came first. 100mm maximum wheel size for affiliated FIRS nations, Powerslide ran there get out of jail campaign for 110mm wheels. THey put pressure on the WIC first, then next they had the FIRS agree.

This was the beginning of the end of the skill factor & skaters with small feet were seriously disadvantaged, as the excess wheel ratio front and back did not allow for the ideal positioning. Also the big muscled power skaters who could drive the wheels gained an advantage.

Also the medical question about the extra force on the ankles, but if you did not have the big wheels, you were disadvantaged with the roll factor.

Simple the FIRS should have limited the wheel size to 100 mm max, it also cost the skaters a lot more money, as if the sport was not costly enough & every time there are major changes with big costs involved, there is a drop off rate.

We have now the case of blatant cheating with 111mm wheels used in FIRS races.

After touting around the 3 x 125 mm skate set up, we see powerslide advertising that Felix will be using them in Duluth.
Well if the USA body sanctioned the event, there is no way, they should be officially allowed. I hope the CIC is smart enough to realise the damage this can do for our sport.

Another $ 1,500 minimum to get plates, wheels and boots to fit, the extra force on the ankles. Another advantage the jubious power skaters in our sport would have, the skill factor watered down even more.

No other legitimate sport has undergone so many radical changes in the space of a couple of decades, as our sport. The changes have to stop now, they have already gone to far and many dealers and skaters have sheds full of obsolete gear.”"

 

Uvidíme, či bude  v budúcnosti na našom webe kategória 110mm koliesok prekonaná. Napadajú vás ďalšie plusy a mínusy testovaného prototypu? Alebo sa chcete podeliť o svoj názor? Neváhajte tak spraviť v komentároch.

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